Bienvenidos
Senior Member
USA
English
- Mar 14, 2007
- #1
Hey everyone,
I've been staring at these two sentences for the past ten minutes and now I really don't know how I would explain the difference (if there is any) between them. I was asked to explain this to someone and I don't want to embarrass myself; I don't want to be told, "You grew up in the US and you don't know which one's right??" 
So I need a third party to help me out. Thank you all.
All suggestions are welcomed.
All suggestions are welcome.
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Dimcl
Senior Member
British Columbia, Canada
Canadian English
- Mar 14, 2007
- #2
Bienvenidos said:
Hey everyone,
I've been staring at these two sentences for the past ten minutes and now I really don't know how I would explain the difference (if there is any) between them. I was asked to explain this to someone and I don't want to embarrass myself; I don't want to be told, "You grew up in the US and you don't know which one's right??"
All suggestions are welcomed.
All suggestions are welcome.
Good question, Bienvenidos - now you've got me wondering! Frankly, though, I believe that you can't use the past tense in your first sentence because you're mixing and matching tenses (are/welcomed). I think you have to maintain the past tense ie: "All suggestions were welcomed although only one was implemented".
Old Novice
Senior Member
Massachusetts
USA, English
- Mar 14, 2007
- #3
I actually think both sentences are fine, because "welcomed" is also an adjective.
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Maudeyang
Member
China Chinese
- Mar 14, 2007
- #4
I also think both sentences are right. Because "welcome" is both an adjective and a verb.And I deem that "are welcomed" means passiveness.
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Vera Silva
New Member
Brazil - Portuguese
- Aug 7, 2007
- #5
It's an adjective. Change the order. Welcome suggestions.
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espagnola
New Member
Spanish - Mexico
- Mar 14, 2015
- #6
Hello all. I'm trying to post something in my website, I want to be as simple as possible and I thought the formula: "All welcomed" was catchy, but I don't usually see that, should I say All welcome?
(is to say that everybody is welcomed to a class I'm offering)
I always think in spanish when in doubt and Bienvenido (ado/ido) is an adverbial participle, that is modifies the action of being, "ser bienvenido" being welcomed. But in English the use is different right?
owlman5
Senior Member
Colorado
English-US
- Mar 14, 2015
- #7
"Welcome" is related to the German adjective "willkommen", espagnola. You can use either "All (are) welcomed." Or "All (are) welcome" in that post. I'd use "welcome" rather than "welcomed". I don't think the participle is as common as the simple adjective "welcome" in shorts remarks like this.
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espagnola
New Member
Spanish - Mexico
- Mar 14, 2015
- #8
owlman5 said:
"Welcome" is related to the German adjective "willkommen", espagnola. You can use either "All (are) welcomed." Or "All (are) welcome" in that post. I'd use "welcome" rather than "welcomed".
Do I have to say "are" or it's a choice?
owlman5
Senior Member
Colorado
English-US
- Mar 14, 2015
- #9
You don't have to say "are". People will understand that "All welcome" means "all are welcome."
I'd probably omit "all" and just write "welcome" if I needed that word for some reason. I don't think "all welcome" is any catchier than "welcome."
If I wanted to make it clear that absolutely all people are welcome, I'd probably write this: Everybody is welcome.
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Johnsimpson
New Member
British
- Jun 21, 2015
- #10
All suggestions are welcomed. This sentence seems rather strange to me and inapproprate, even if in the passive form. Bear in mind that 'welcome is a noun, a verb, or an adjective. In passive form it would better to be. 'All suggestions are most welcome'. I believe it has to do with what we think is the most appropriate.
sdgraham
Senior Member
Oregon, USA
USA English
- Jun 21, 2015
- #11
Johnsimpson said:
In passive form it would better to be. 'All suggestions are most welcome'.
Welcome to the forum Johnsimpson.
I'm not sure this old thread needed reawakening, but please note that 'All suggestions are most welcome' is not passive.
The passive voice requires the use of the past participle of a verb and "welcome' is neither a verb here nor a past participle.
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Johnsimpson
New Member
British
- Jun 21, 2015
- #12
I found this thread by search because I had a disagreement in what I believed to be the the wrong use of welcomed. Perhaps I should have opened a new thread. This was the sentence. 'English teachers and learners are welcomed in this group'.
Mahantongo
Senior Member
English (U.S.)
- Jun 21, 2015
- #13
It is not incorrect to use "welcomed", but it does not mean the same thing as saying "welcome". This use of "welcomed" is a passive voice verb rather than an adjective, and it suggests that someone actively extends a welcome to English teachers (perhaps by shaking their hands, giving them a cup of tea, introducing them to the other members of the group, etc.) Think of it this way "English teachers are welcomed in this group, but algebra teachers are snubbed, and science teachers are not only refused entrance to the building, but are pelted with rocks and bottles on the street."
Dazun
Senior Member
Somewhere I belong ...
Sinhala
- Jan 5, 2023
- #14
I heard this phrase from IP Man 4: The Finale (2019) Movie, later I found its Subtitles as follows
I don't remember saying that improvisation wasn't allowed. Since I haven't finalized the routine, anyone's input is welcomed.
But I'm not sure if welcomed is correct. even Grammarly says it's wrong (mark in red)!
grassy
Senior Member
Warsaw
Polish
- Jan 5, 2023
- #15
I agree with Grammarly. Maybe you just heard it wrong and so did whoever wrote the subtitles for this?
Dazun
Senior Member
Somewhere I belong ...
Sinhala
- Jan 5, 2023
- #16
grassy said:
I agree with Grammarly. Maybe you just heard it wrong and so did whoever wrote the subtitles for this?
I googled & found online - Ip Man 4: The Finale (2019) Movie Scripts | SQ
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